Aftermarket Rust Proofing...is it worth it?

Rip · 09-23-2007, 04:43 PM

What do you guys think about rust proofing? is it worth the expense? is it true that it can actually rust faster?

anyone ever do it?

Johnny Drama · 09-23-2007, 07:02 PM

The way they build cars these days, I don't think it's worth it, and I live is a pretty crappy climate most of the time.

I've never had a car less then 10 years old rust out on me. I'd save your money IMO

Mindcore · 09-25-2007, 03:07 PM

Huge waste of money dude, don't bother. I tell people the same thing when they buy a new car and F&I try to get you on all the extras.

Unless you plan to keep the car for the next 20 years, and it sees a LOT of salt you're better off not messing with it.

Rip · 09-27-2007, 11:44 AM

Thanks guys, that's pretty much what I was thinking, but figured I wouldn't discount it right off.

Wobbletastic · 10-03-2007, 05:45 PM

Hey people!

I've just bought a 53 reg mazda6 and it's great, but I've noticed that the insides of the rear arches are rusting. Is this a common problem?

BrickTop · 10-03-2007, 06:22 PM

Not a common problem afaik.

But... I know that sometimes water, salt etc can get in behind the wheel liner and start to rust if it has some loose, or isn't making a good seal. I would check to see if everything looks good there. If it's not rusted thru you should be able to fix it fairly easily. If it is, well I'm not sure what 53 reg means, but if it's under warranty, it is covered for perforation, meaning rust right thru.

JimMS6 · 10-04-2007, 02:47 PM

Like Bricktop says, if you're getting too much moisture in behind the liner, it can rust out, you need to be sure to get in there and clean it out often. You should stop by your dealer though, the liner shouldn't be compromised, and if it is, it should be replaced. I've seen it happen once or twice, but it is not common at all, AFAIK

Wobbletastic · 10-04-2007, 07:01 PM

Hmm well the rust seems to be starting under the paint on the outer side, rather that from the side near the liner. It's only 4 years old so I was surprised to find it rusting already. I've told the Mazda dealer, so I shall see what they can do about it! Cheers for the advice!

Mindcore · 10-07-2007, 11:36 AM

Hmm, not the liner then, but something must have hit it, a rock or something, since it is very unusual to have it start rusting for no reason.

I hope they fix it up for you, once rust starts it has a bad habit of spreading

Wobbletastic · 10-07-2007, 07:35 PM

Yep I really hope they fix it before it gets to a stage where it's unrepairable, It's from the top of the wheel arch stretching down towards the front on both rear arches so it's unlikely to be something hitting it in the same place on both sides. I suspect it's faulty manufacturing or something.

Johnny Drama · 10-09-2007, 11:38 AM

Ya. the odds of that are pretty slim. I think you have a decent case for them to repair it.

Thing is though, that the odds of a mfg problem are pretty slim too. Did you buy your car new? could it have been damaged prior to delievery and the dealer already fixed it once by painting it?

That happens more times then you would think, something happens to the car in transit, the dealer gets it and repairs it, since it's not titled, they don't have to say anything, and they sell it to you as new, but then problems such as this show up down the road.

oskah · 01-13-2008, 11:48 AM

There is a recall on this now in GB. A lot of 6s are rusting out on the rear wheel arches for some reason. Have a look here......

Rusty Wheel Arches - Mazda6 / Atenza

Wobbletastic · 01-14-2008, 06:57 PM

I'm taking my 6 to my local mazda dealer next monday to get my rusty arches fixed! Anyone know mazdas policy on courtesy cars... I want a car but I cant see anywhere on my insurance that says I'm covered for courtesy cars; I suppose as it's being fixed under warranty, they might cover the courtest car themselves but I'm not sure. Any ideas?

Mindcore · 01-16-2008, 11:19 PM

Courtesy cars are at the dealers discretion, if you have a good dealer, they should set you up. I've never been left with out transport with any dealer/mfg I've ever dealt with. It's a small cost for good customer service.

Wobbletastic · 01-17-2008, 07:16 AM

Ohh that's good, I used to have a ford and they wouldn't let me have a courtesy car because my insurance didn't cover me for one.

Wobbletastic · 01-23-2008, 09:51 AM

Well they gave me a courtesy car but it's a mazda2 and quite honestly it's terrible. I don't see how mazda can build such rubbish. I was planning to go to the shops today, but that would mean driving the damn thing.

Mindcore · 01-24-2008, 07:24 PM

It's terrible? People seem to be raving about that little thing. What is so crappy about it?

Wobbletastic · 01-25-2008, 01:18 PM

It wasnt the new one... it was an '06 but it looked like a Demio. Very high sides, sloppy gears, weak brakes and skinny wheels not to mention a driving position like a bus and rubbish seats; it looked like I'd nicked it off postman pat! I've got my 6 back now, so I'm all happy!

SoFast · 01-31-2008, 02:23 PM

Ya, I've heard bad things about the old ones.

Glad you got your car back though, nothing better then hopping back in your baby, everything feels right

p3asa · 03-06-2008, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Wobbletastic

09-23-2007, 04:43 PM	#1 (permalink)
Rip Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 34	Aftermarket Rust Proofing...is it worth it? What do you guys think about rust proofing? is it worth the expense? is it true that it can actually rust faster? anyone ever do it?

09-23-2007, 07:02 PM	#2 (permalink)
Johnny Drama Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 555	The way they build cars these days, I don't think it's worth it, and I live is a pretty crappy climate most of the time. I've never had a car less then 10 years old rust out on me. I'd save your money IMO __________________ MazdaSpeed6

09-25-2007, 03:07 PM	#3 (permalink)
Mindcore Administrator Join Date: May 2007 Location: Look Out!!! Posts: 1,299	Huge waste of money dude, don't bother. I tell people the same thing when they buy a new car and F&I try to get you on all the extras. Unless you plan to keep the car for the next 20 years, and it sees a LOT of salt you're better off not messing with it. __________________ core Mazda Forums .

10-03-2007, 06:22 PM	#6 (permalink)
BrickTop Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 79	Not a common problem afaik. But... I know that sometimes water, salt etc can get in behind the wheel liner and start to rust if it has some loose, or isn't making a good seal. I would check to see if everything looks good there. If it's not rusted thru you should be able to fix it fairly easily. If it is, well I'm not sure what 53 reg means, but if it's under warranty, it is covered for perforation, meaning rust right thru. __________________ Black Onyx Mazda6 sport

10-07-2007, 11:36 AM	#9 (permalink)
Mindcore Administrator Join Date: May 2007 Location: Look Out!!! Posts: 1,299	Hmm, not the liner then, but something must have hit it, a rock or something, since it is very unusual to have it start rusting for no reason. I hope they fix it up for you, once rust starts it has a bad habit of spreading __________________ core Mazda Forums .

09-27-2007, 11:44 AM	#4 (permalink)
Rip Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 34	Thanks guys, that's pretty much what I was thinking, but figured I wouldn't discount it right off.

10-03-2007, 05:45 PM	#5 (permalink)
Wobbletastic Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 21	Hey people! I've just bought a 53 reg mazda6 and it's great, but I've noticed that the insides of the rear arches are rusting. Is this a common problem?

10-04-2007, 02:47 PM	#7 (permalink)
JimMS6 Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Socal Posts: 159	Like Bricktop says, if you're getting too much moisture in behind the liner, it can rust out, you need to be sure to get in there and clean it out often. You should stop by your dealer though, the liner shouldn't be compromised, and if it is, it should be replaced. I've seen it happen once or twice, but it is not common at all, AFAIK

10-04-2007, 07:01 PM	#8 (permalink)
Wobbletastic Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 21	Hmm well the rust seems to be starting under the paint on the outer side, rather that from the side near the liner. It's only 4 years old so I was surprised to find it rusting already. I've told the Mazda dealer, so I shall see what they can do about it! Cheers for the advice!

10-07-2007, 07:35 PM	#10 (permalink)
Wobbletastic Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 21	Yep I really hope they fix it before it gets to a stage where it's unrepairable, It's from the top of the wheel arch stretching down towards the front on both rear arches so it's unlikely to be something hitting it in the same place on both sides. I suspect it's faulty manufacturing or something.

10-09-2007, 11:38 AM	#11 (permalink)
Johnny Drama Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 555	Ya. the odds of that are pretty slim. I think you have a decent case for them to repair it. Thing is though, that the odds of a mfg problem are pretty slim too. Did you buy your car new? could it have been damaged prior to delievery and the dealer already fixed it once by painting it? That happens more times then you would think, something happens to the car in transit, the dealer gets it and repairs it, since it's not titled, they don't have to say anything, and they sell it to you as new, but then problems such as this show up down the road. __________________ MazdaSpeed6

01-13-2008, 11:48 AM	#12 (permalink)
oskah Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 4	There is a recall on this now in GB. A lot of 6s are rusting out on the rear wheel arches for some reason. Have a look here...... Rusty Wheel Arches - Mazda6 / Atenza

01-14-2008, 06:57 PM	#13 (permalink)
Wobbletastic Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 21	I'm taking my 6 to my local mazda dealer next monday to get my rusty arches fixed! Anyone know mazdas policy on courtesy cars... I want a car but I cant see anywhere on my insurance that says I'm covered for courtesy cars; I suppose as it's being fixed under warranty, they might cover the courtest car themselves but I'm not sure. Any ideas?

01-16-2008, 11:19 PM	#14 (permalink)
Mindcore Administrator Join Date: May 2007 Location: Look Out!!! Posts: 1,299	Courtesy cars are at the dealers discretion, if you have a good dealer, they should set you up. I've never been left with out transport with any dealer/mfg I've ever dealt with. It's a small cost for good customer service. __________________ core Mazda Forums .

01-17-2008, 07:16 AM	#15 (permalink)
Wobbletastic Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 21	Ohh that's good, I used to have a ford and they wouldn't let me have a courtesy car because my insurance didn't cover me for one.

01-23-2008, 09:51 AM	#16 (permalink)
Wobbletastic Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 21	Well they gave me a courtesy car but it's a mazda2 and quite honestly it's terrible. I don't see how mazda can build such rubbish. I was planning to go to the shops today, but that would mean driving the damn thing.

01-24-2008, 07:24 PM	#17 (permalink)
Mindcore Administrator Join Date: May 2007 Location: Look Out!!! Posts: 1,299	It's terrible? People seem to be raving about that little thing. What is so crappy about it? __________________ core Mazda Forums .

01-25-2008, 01:18 PM	#18 (permalink)
Wobbletastic Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 21	It wasnt the new one... it was an '06 but it looked like a Demio. Very high sides, sloppy gears, weak brakes and skinny wheels not to mention a driving position like a bus and rubbish seats; it looked like I'd nicked it off postman pat! I've got my 6 back now, so I'm all happy!

01-31-2008, 02:23 PM	#19 (permalink)
SoFast Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 95	Ya, I've heard bad things about the old ones. Glad you got your car back though, nothing better then hopping back in your baby, everything feels right