More Performance Mazda's on their way!

BlastMS3 · 09-01-2007, 02:58 PM

According to Autoweek Magazine, Mazda has some pretty big plans for its vehicle range in North America that involve revising some of its existing core products as well as adding some new models.

Mazda's big debut for the upcoming year will be the brand new midsize 6 sedan, which will be unveiled at Frankfurt. While we're still waiting to see the rest of the exterior and the interior, we're expecting some pretty big things. Mazda has consistently improved its quality as demonstrated through the CX-7 and CX-9, so the new 6 should be a step up as well. A question has been raised regarding the engine lineup for the 6; Autoweek reports that a new, larger inline-four will be the standard base engine, while the V6 will not be the 3.5-liter unit as found in various Ford products, but a new 3.7-liter engine that will debut in the CX-9 crossover later this year.

Apparently the next model down to appear will be the Mazdaspeed version of the recently revised MX-5. As many sources have predicted, it will use the 2.3-liter direct-injection turbocharged inline-four which currently powers the Mazdaspeed3, Mazdaspeed6 and the CX-7 crossover. The engine won't be carried over with all of its 263 horsepower and 280 lb-ft of torque, but rather it'll be detuned slightly for packaging reasons relating to the radiator and the intercooler. You can bet that unlike the previous generation Mazdaspeed Miata, there won't be a tiny “bucktooth” intercooler; a full-fledged unit will be needed to keep this powerful four running in its prime.

Also pertaining to Mazda's sports car lineup is the Kabura. When the Japanese company showed its 3+1 seater coupe back in 2006, it received some pretty high praise for its sporty design, the first vehicle penned by the then-new chief designer Franz von Holzhausen. This light, rear-wheel drive two-door coupe could very well make it to production based on the current MX-5 platform. The only thing that could prevent the Kabura from hitting the assembly line is a concern regarding whether or not it would be sold in Europeand Japan. If Mazda could do this (a real no brainer), we should see the Kabura sometime after 2010.

For 2009 as a 2010 model year product, Mazda will be launching the next-generation 3. This compact favorite will continue to ride on the European-developed “C1” platform, though it will be heavily re-engineered. Key issues with the current car, such as refinement and interior quality will be addressed, but not at the cost of the car's famed driving experience. Mazda will keep its engine lineup the same (two four-cylinder engines), but expect power on both units to be bumped up a notch or two, and for fuel economy to be improved. A compact crossover called the CX-5 based on the next Mazda3 may also be produced for model year 2011.

Also, Mazda will be introducing the next-generation RX-8 in 2009, and if Mazda chooses to bring over the subcompact 2, it will only be after 2010.

Lelle · 09-02-2007, 11:17 AM

hasnt there been rumor of a new rx7 comin in 2010?

Supersonic · 09-02-2007, 12:20 PM

I've heard the same rumor, but you never know with MFG's, great thing about forums, is that we're usually the first ( second ) to know.

I'm glad that Mazda is still supporting their mazdaspeed, and performance models though.

rick2 · 09-02-2007, 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lelle

hasnt there been rumor of a new rx7 comin in 2010?

thats the 'kabura' listed above... I just hope they change the looks... its too... weird looking for me

Lelle · 09-03-2007, 02:18 PM

well with it mostlikely still being in concept itll end up dulled down by the release, well hopefully lol

most concept cars are pretty crazy til they come out then they all normal lookin again

Supersonic · 09-06-2007, 03:53 PM

That's true, but it works both ways, I've seen some awesome concepts that get dumbed down by the time it hits the market, and I've seen some crazy concepts become great looking cars.

I'm not a fan of the Kubara at all, and IMO goes even further away from what the RX7 should be.

I really believe that the RX8 was supposed to be the new 7 and people screamed so they changed thier direction. ( No offence to the RX8 guys, it's an awesome car in it's own right, just different then what the RX7 should be )

Regardless of what they come out with, I hope it either lives up to the 7 name, or they call it the RX9

Lelle · 09-08-2007, 04:49 AM

yer tru that, i heard theres talk of bring back the toyota supra, and we all know the skyline is makin a comeback, perhaps if the rx7 does come back itll be the return of the great tuner cars? i definately hope so

Jimbo · 09-08-2007, 11:01 AM

I've heard the Supra is coming back too. I hope they do, as you say, with that and the skyline, Mazda will definetly have to step up and do something great with the new rx7.

I can't wait to see a pure, hardcore sports car from Mazda again.

Lelle · 09-09-2007, 03:13 AM

yer thats the one! pure hardcore sports car

L8APEX · 09-10-2007, 09:31 AM

i guess I am in the minority, I love the Kabura. I think if they loose the idea of a back seat, it could easily turn into the next RX-7.

Aluminum · 09-10-2007, 06:25 PM

I like the Kabura too. I think the biggest thing is weight. The kabura looks like it weighs a tonne. If they can get that down, it very well could be the next RX7

tknburl · 11-08-2007, 01:46 AM

Why can't they produce a new RX-3.
I almost bought a RX-8.....had a 1979 RX-7 ported,skirted,race exhaust,upgraded on all corners.
I still loved my 3 RX-3's best of all!
Look at SCCA.......whoosssssh

Bruceov · 05-28-2008, 11:52 PM

All of the foregoing was written before the age of $4.00 gas let alone $5.00 or $6.00 gas. Mazda needs the US Mazda 2, a hybrid, a diesel desperately. Prius sales are up 52%--you have to wait two months for one. SUV sales are down 50% and will not come back. We are in the midst of an umprecidented shift in driver preference.

reginab · 07-29-2008, 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruceov

All of the foregoing was written before the age of $4.00 gas let alone $5.00 or $6.00 gas. Mazda needs the US Mazda 2, a hybrid, a diesel desperately. Prius sales are up 52%--you have to wait two months for one. SUV sales are down 50% and will not come back. We are in the midst of an umprecidented shift in driver preference.

I would have to agree. Drivers are thinking smart and picking the cars they can maintain. If the gas prices continue to go up, SUVs will be dead to all but the really rich.

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09-01-2007, 02:58 PM	#1 (permalink)
BlastMS3 Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 67	More Performance Mazda's on their way! According to Autoweek Magazine, Mazda has some pretty big plans for its vehicle range in North America that involve revising some of its existing core products as well as adding some new models. Mazda's big debut for the upcoming year will be the brand new midsize 6 sedan, which will be unveiled at Frankfurt. While we're still waiting to see the rest of the exterior and the interior, we're expecting some pretty big things. Mazda has consistently improved its quality as demonstrated through the CX-7 and CX-9, so the new 6 should be a step up as well. A question has been raised regarding the engine lineup for the 6; Autoweek reports that a new, larger inline-four will be the standard base engine, while the V6 will not be the 3.5-liter unit as found in various Ford products, but a new 3.7-liter engine that will debut in the CX-9 crossover later this year. Apparently the next model down to appear will be the Mazdaspeed version of the recently revised MX-5. As many sources have predicted, it will use the 2.3-liter direct-injection turbocharged inline-four which currently powers the Mazdaspeed3, Mazdaspeed6 and the CX-7 crossover. The engine won't be carried over with all of its 263 horsepower and 280 lb-ft of torque, but rather it'll be detuned slightly for packaging reasons relating to the radiator and the intercooler. You can bet that unlike the previous generation Mazdaspeed Miata, there won't be a tiny “bucktooth” intercooler; a full-fledged unit will be needed to keep this powerful four running in its prime. Also pertaining to Mazda's sports car lineup is the Kabura. When the Japanese company showed its 3+1 seater coupe back in 2006, it received some pretty high praise for its sporty design, the first vehicle penned by the then-new chief designer Franz von Holzhausen. This light, rear-wheel drive two-door coupe could very well make it to production based on the current MX-5 platform. The only thing that could prevent the Kabura from hitting the assembly line is a concern regarding whether or not it would be sold in Europeand Japan. If Mazda could do this (a real no brainer), we should see the Kabura sometime after 2010. For 2009 as a 2010 model year product, Mazda will be launching the next-generation 3. This compact favorite will continue to ride on the European-developed “C1” platform, though it will be heavily re-engineered. Key issues with the current car, such as refinement and interior quality will be addressed, but not at the cost of the car's famed driving experience. Mazda will keep its engine lineup the same (two four-cylinder engines), but expect power on both units to be bumped up a notch or two, and for fuel economy to be improved. A compact crossover called the CX-5 based on the next Mazda3 may also be produced for model year 2011. Also, Mazda will be introducing the next-generation RX-8 in 2009, and if Mazda chooses to bring over the subcompact 2, it will only be after 2010.

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09-02-2007, 11:17 AM	#2 (permalink)
Lelle Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Aus Posts: 13	hasnt there been rumor of a new rx7 comin in 2010?

09-02-2007, 12:20 PM	#3 (permalink)
Supersonic Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: New York, NY Posts: 345	I've heard the same rumor, but you never know with MFG's, great thing about forums, is that we're usually the first ( second ) to know. I'm glad that Mazda is still supporting their mazdaspeed, and performance models though.

09-03-2007, 02:18 PM	#5 (permalink)
Lelle Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Aus Posts: 13	well with it mostlikely still being in concept itll end up dulled down by the release, well hopefully lol most concept cars are pretty crazy til they come out then they all normal lookin again

09-06-2007, 03:53 PM	#6 (permalink)
Supersonic Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: New York, NY Posts: 345	That's true, but it works both ways, I've seen some awesome concepts that get dumbed down by the time it hits the market, and I've seen some crazy concepts become great looking cars. I'm not a fan of the Kubara at all, and IMO goes even further away from what the RX7 should be. I really believe that the RX8 was supposed to be the new 7 and people screamed so they changed thier direction. ( No offence to the RX8 guys, it's an awesome car in it's own right, just different then what the RX7 should be ) Regardless of what they come out with, I hope it either lives up to the 7 name, or they call it the RX9

09-08-2007, 04:49 AM	#7 (permalink)
Lelle Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Aus Posts: 13	yer tru that, i heard theres talk of bring back the toyota supra, and we all know the skyline is makin a comeback, perhaps if the rx7 does come back itll be the return of the great tuner cars? i definately hope so

09-08-2007, 11:01 AM	#8 (permalink)
Jimbo Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 161	I've heard the Supra is coming back too. I hope they do, as you say, with that and the skyline, Mazda will definetly have to step up and do something great with the new rx7. I can't wait to see a pure, hardcore sports car from Mazda again.

09-09-2007, 03:13 AM	#9 (permalink)
Lelle Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Aus Posts: 13	yer thats the one! pure hardcore sports car

09-10-2007, 06:25 PM	#11 (permalink)
Aluminum Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 51	I like the Kabura too. I think the biggest thing is weight. The kabura looks like it weighs a tonne. If they can get that down, it very well could be the next RX7

11-08-2007, 01:46 AM	#12 (permalink)
tknburl Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 2	Why can't they produce a new RX-3. I almost bought a RX-8.....had a 1979 RX-7 ported,skirted,race exhaust,upgraded on all corners. I still loved my 3 RX-3's best of all! Look at SCCA.......whoosssssh

05-28-2008, 11:52 PM	#13 (permalink)
Bruceov Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 17	All of the foregoing was written before the age of $4.00 gas let alone $5.00 or $6.00 gas. Mazda needs the US Mazda 2, a hybrid, a diesel desperately. Prius sales are up 52%--you have to wait two months for one. SUV sales are down 50% and will not come back. We are in the midst of an umprecidented shift in driver preference.